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Old 09-11-2006, 02:52 PM
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how to verify a successful clone

hi shirt pocket staff...sorry for the long first post.

i am new 2 mac last week. so of course new to unix, superduper and most things apple.
i read the 60 pg manual, the forums here and lots of other mac docs in the last few days...
so perhaps the answers to my questions have already been through my brain...but didn't stick.

intel macbook pro os 10.4.7...
smartdisk firelite 120gb firewire
downloaded superduper trial...
i will register tomorrow likely.
wanted to make a clean clone (is it called a clone?)

i followed the instructions and think i've made a clean copy of the mac hard drive as new and after the autoupdate for mac&tiger.

now i want to check for success...
--so it looks like i restart with option key and select the firewire drive? this will load the cloned copy and i'll be working from there?

--if i open any applications or files, i expect they will be a little slower running from the firewire...
but if i made any changes to these files while using them what happens?
or if i down load applicaitons or surf....all from the clone what happens to it?
does it change in any way?

--also if i update the cloned copy after a day or a few days, how long will this take.
i understand times may vary based on volume of changes...
but lets say i've added 500mb of photos, a few bookmarks and an application or 2...?

it took over an hour to complete the first clone which was about 20gb of 'new mac' drive stuff.

--i'm complusive on my pcs at backing up files
and my understanding on the mac is i should use .mac, another hard drive or other storage media for file back ups...
is that best even while using superduper?

--i did occasionally need to use the system restore feature of winxp,
taking my drive back to a previous state (usually related to a software download that didn't work as expected)...
super duper doesn't make indexed backups that allow this does it?
i'd need to rotate 2 ext hard drives each with clones to do this, correct?

i've read that restoring, repairing, recovering with the new mac os is easier than winxp
but i'm not ready to give up the old habits of multiple recovery options...
but any easier game plan is appreciated...

again thanks for answering my newbie questions...

the download and initial backup process went smoothly and was pretty simple...

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joemac

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Old 09-11-2006, 02:58 PM
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Ugh -- I composed a long reply to your previous post and now it's deleted, and I lost the text. Don't do that, joemac: you can simply EDIT your previous post.

To reiterate, less expansively this time:

- Yes, you'll hold down Option and start from the backup, or choose it in the Startup Disk preference pane.

- If you're running from the copy, you're running from the copy. Changes you make will modify the copy.

- An update takes various amounts of time given the system, number of files, changes, etc. I'd expect your case to take less than 20 minutes or so.

- More redundancy is better than less, so be as compulsive as you feel is necessary.

- System restore is, in general, not necessary on the Mac, because apps don't squirrel away tons of things in unexpected and problematic places. But we do have a feature called "Sandbox" that might prove helpful.

Hope that helps.
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Old 09-11-2006, 03:11 PM
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Ugh -- I composed a long reply to your previous post and now it's deleted, and I lost the text. Don't do that, joemac: you can simply EDIT your previous post..
thanks for the speedy reply but don't shoot me over a forum issue...

after submitting my initial post, i received a 'not logged on message'...luckily i had copied my text beforehand...

then after logging on again i reposted...only to then see 2 copies of my post.

so then i deleted one copy...and didn't see any reply yet....

surely you don't have these forums set up so users who delete a post, delete the whole thread? that wouldn't be wise...

so thanks for the answer.
perhaps you should copy text before posting too so the really long answers aren't lost and sort out the forums so newbies can't delete YOUR answers...

and perhaps i want to rethink using your product...if you are going to spank new customers for system issues...

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joemac

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Old 09-11-2006, 03:16 PM
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Didn't shoot you, joemac -- just requested that you edit rather than delete. You didn't see the reply because you turned it around quickly -- by the time I posted my reply, you had deleted your message... so there was nothing to reply to.
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Old 09-11-2006, 03:33 PM
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well dave you are certainly welcome to the last word...it's your place.

i'm just a customer....rather potential customer.

isn't it easier or wiser just to be nice to us?

if a post appears twice the only 'edit' function available to rectify that is 'delete' right?
how else does one edit a duplicate post? i suppose one could just leave it up and the admin (you) could clean it up...

so do you want to correct me again for a forum systems issue?

why not just agree the forum has a glitch or apologize...

is this how you normally deal with customer feedback? telling them 'don't do that'..

no welcome, no thanks for trying the product, nothing nice...?

think about it...

joemac

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I'm sorry, joemac, while I totally welcome you here and show my appreciation by rapidly answering your questions in full, I don't think my rather basic request -- which wasn't phrased in an antagonistic manner -- was "not nice". I'm sorry you took offense.
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