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emikysa 10-05-2006 07:45 PM

Best process to replace internal hard drive using SuperDuper!?
Dave and SD! power users:

I have a PowerBook G4 running OSX 10.4.8 and SuperDuper! 2.1.3 and I want to replace my original 80GB internal hard drive with a new 160GB internal hard drive. I have an external FireWire drive with an 80GB partition for backups that I can use in the process. I reviewed previous posts on this topic and tried to outline all the steps I should take below. I would very much appreciate if you all would look the steps over and let me know if you think I should add, change or remove anything. Hopefully this thread will be helpful to SD! users who attempt hard drive upgrades in the future.

- format external FW hard drive
- run utilities on both original internal drive and external FW drive (?)
- - Apple Hardware Test?
- - Diskwarrior?
- - TechToolPro?
- - Media Scanner from Intech?
- - Other?
- use SD! to make bootable copy of original internal drive onto external FW drive
- test boot from external FW drive
- shut down PowerBook
- replace original 80 GB internal hard drive with new 160 GB internal hard drive using instructions from
- boot to external FW drive
- now running PB off of external FW drive, format newly installed, blank 160GB internal hard drive using Apple Disk Utility
- rename new internal hard drive with name of old internal hard drive
- run disk utilities on new hard drive to ensure it is good (?)
- - Media Scanner from Intech?
- - Apple Hardware Test?
- - Diskwarrior?
- - TechToolPro?
- - Other?
- use SD! to make bootable copy of external FW drive onto new internal hard drive
- shut down PB
- disconnect firewire drive
- reboot from new internal drive
- test to make sure things work
- - best way to test??
- rename new internal drive to its own name
- - old drive was called PB80-MAIN-EM and new should be called PB160-MAIN-EM

Thank you,

dnanian 10-05-2006 08:35 PM

One thing, Erik. Name the external the *same* as the internal before you start up and test it. And, zero the drive when you erase it, making sure to partition it appropriately (as Apple Partition Map).

OK, so that's two things. :)

framal 11-02-2006 10:22 PM

I'm also thinking of replacing my 60 GB to a 160 GB for my PB G4.
So, Erik... How did it go? Did it work?
Why use all these utilities?

- - Apple Hardware Test?
- - Diskwarrior?
- - TechToolPro?
- - Media Scanner from Intech?
- - Other?


SBlumenthal 01-11-2007 03:41 AM

I'm about to do the same process. The external Firewire drive I've been using for back ups is named "Insider" and I'll want my new internal HD to be called "Macintosh HD". Does this mean I should rename the external drive to "Macintosh HD" as well?

Also, if that's the case, is there any danger in changing the name of the external drive that I have already been using as a daily SD! backup drive for a while?

When I'm finished with the internal HD replacement I'll want to go back to using my external as my daily SD! backup drive. Should I then change the name back to "Insider"?

And lastly is changing the name as simple as clicking on the name and changing it, as you would a folder or document, or is it a more involved process?


dnanian 01-11-2007 09:05 AM

That's right, just rename the drive. I'd change it after you complete your copy, before you start up from it. Then, sure, change it back the same way.

SBlumenthal 01-11-2007 06:42 PM

OK, so I did the transfer, and for the most part everything went supersmooth. I'm now running on my newly restored internal hard drive. The only weird thing is now my iPhoto crashes almost instantly every time I open it. Any ideas as to why that would be happening?

dnanian 01-11-2007 06:50 PM

That seems weird. Where is it crashing?

SBlumenthal 01-11-2007 06:54 PM

Pretty much as soon as it opens. I barely get as far as clicking anywhere inside the program and it crashes.

dnanian 01-11-2007 06:57 PM

Sorry, should have been more specific. I mean its crash log -- could you send that to the support email address?

SBlumenthal 01-11-2007 07:09 PM

OK, sent...


dnanian 01-11-2007 07:17 PM

Looking at the crash dump, FlickerExport is crashing. I'd try reinstalling it.

SBlumenthal 01-11-2007 09:00 PM

I couldn't really identify where it says that, but I'll take your word for it. I don't really use that Flickr export feature anyway, so I just deleted it. But still have the problem of iPhoto crashing.

I think what I'm going to do now is wait about 3 or 4 weeks to see if any other weird glitches occur on my new internal drive. If they do, I'll have bigger worries than a crashing iPhoto. If not, I'll figure out a way to get iPhoto running again (re-install it or something)

Does that sound like a smart practice?

Also, now that I've copied the data from my external to my new internal, and renamed my external back to "Insider" I want to get it back on my daily backup routine again. Can I just continue using the settings from when it was backing up my old hard drive? (both my ext. and int. hard drive names are identical again to the way they were). Or should I do a new full back up for some reason, being that it is a different drive?

dnanian 01-11-2007 09:49 PM

If you start up from the backup, does iPhoto run properly there? If iPhoto is still crashing, I'd need to see the crash log again...

SBlumenthal 01-12-2007 01:11 PM

I just booted from my external drive and ran iPhoto. It crashed instantly 3 times in a row. I'll send you my crash log.


aplnub 01-13-2007 10:28 AM

I have had that problem before and running OnyX fixed my issues.

It cleaned the caches out and bam, no more problems.

firas 01-20-2007 04:52 PM

Just out of curiousity dnanian, as I might be doing the same thing soon with my MacBook. What's the reason for renaming the External Firewire backup drive to the old internal drive's name after copying and before restoring to the new internal drive?


dnanian 01-20-2007 07:30 PM

It ensures that aliases and other file references that explicit include the volume name point to the "new" volume and not the old one.

firas 01-21-2007 08:04 AM

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the info and the great product! I just purchased it a few days ago after reading and hearing all the great reviews from MacWorld, Macbreak, as well as others and I just love it so far. Keep up the great work and service!

dnanian 01-21-2007 08:25 PM

Will certainly try to! :)

ScottE22 02-09-2007 04:16 PM

Cloning to a new HD
I'm bumping this thread to make sure I understand this process...

My 12" PB's HD died. All my important data is backed up, so no issues there...

I bought myself a new Macbook, and in addition I bought a new HD with the intention of transitioning my wife from her aging G3 iBook (Panther) to the Powerbook. I just want to make sure I understand the process in the simplest terms.

I suppose I could install Tiger on the new drive in the PB and then use Migration Assistant to move her stuff, but what I'm hoping is that I can use SD! to clone her iBook's HD and restore it on the new HD in the Powerbook. Just seems so much simpler.

Anyway - I'm confused about something and perhaps I'm reading too much into it.
  1. In the absence of a FW drive put the iBook in Target mode and run SD! on my Macbook to make the image -- store the image file on the Macbook.
  2. Put the new machine with naked, brand new HD in Target mode and push the image from the Macbook.

Am I oversimplifying this?

It seems to me from my days as a tech guy cloning machines with CCC that you cannot boot from the image when you're trying to restore the image, but I figured using my new Macbook as the go-between would work.

Thanks in advance.

dnanian 02-09-2007 04:35 PM

No, it really should be about that easy...

ScottE22 02-09-2007 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by dnanian (Post 10733)
No, it really should be about that easy...

Thanks, Dave. After reading the step-by-step post that started this thread, I thought I was missing something... ;)

I plan to clone her HD and move it over and then do the upgrade to Tiger (she's still running Panther on the iBook G3). She'll be moving from a 20GB drive to an 80GB one that I'm installing.

One more thing to confirm -- once the new HD is installed in the PB, I'm thinking I'll need to boot it in Target mode and format it using the Macbook. Is my thinking correct, or can I just restore the image to a naked, new drive?

dnanian 02-09-2007 05:16 PM

You'll definitely need to format it. Make sure it's properly partitioned as "Apple Partition Map" for your Power PC Mac, too.

ScottE22 02-09-2007 05:39 PM

Dave - thanks so much for your responsiveness!

One thing I guess I'm not clear on even after reading the manual is whether you can use SuperDuper to backup or restore the volume that's used as the Startup disk.

It looks to me like you can, which is something I've never done before. I used to install OS X to a FW drive, then boot from the FW drive to make an image of the machine I want to clone. Can SD! clone the booted volume so as to make this unnecessary?

dnanian 02-09-2007 05:40 PM

You can certainly back up the startup disk. You just can't restore to the volume you're booted from.

ScottE22 02-09-2007 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by dnanian (Post 10737)
You can certainly back up the startup disk. You just can't restore to the volume you're booted from.

Well that clears it up then -- it's really easier than I thought...

So, then, can I install SD! to my wife's iBook and just copy the entire volume (which I'm booted from!) to the Powerbook (booted in Target mode, of course) without some intermediate step, or do I need to create a bootable backup image and then restore the image to the new drive?

Sorry for all the questions -- I guess I missed a huge piece of SD!'s basic functionality in my reading...

dnanian 02-09-2007 06:03 PM

That's right. You can just copy it.

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